Hey, that’s me!

Ah, thanks. I never heard that reference before in regards to fascism and liberalism.

But I’m not a liberal. I’m a leftist.

Also I never said it was possible to go back. I just said it was better back then compared to now.

The trick here is they don’t actually care if it’s autistics or not. They just want want to create another “other” for society to Target. So you’ll get them blasting this on news all over the United States of America " see this perfectly normal looking heartbeat, this is the autism heartbeat. We needed to put whoever this terrible person is in whatever terrible position we’re going to put them in".

It’s just like sending people to El Salvador with mom tattoos. They don’t care if they’re in a gang or not.

It turns out all countries have an authoritarian desire and like to do horrible stuff to their civilians. At any point in time some may be better than others. But all of the problems stem from the same root problem of power. It’s a human thing and it’s unavoidable. Something that citizens will always need to fight against.

You are correct, but the average person is not paying attention to that kind of stuff.

What are you talking about? Literally this whole thread started with me pointing out. It’s worse now than it was last year. I never said it was the best situation last year. What do you mean talking about Good cop? I have been honest.

You do realize that calling what we had before Trumps second term a democracy does not mean that. I think it’s the best right?

I think we’re going around in circles. I’ve already answered this. I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree here. I haven’t found many of your arguments terribly convincing. I’m sure the same is for you on my arguments. Our times are probably better spent elsewhere.

Yeah, I definitely don’t care enough to discuss it with you. Have you read what you have posted? You sound like the least reasonable person to discuss this with. You aren’t even engaging with what I have posted, you are just activated by the fact that my definition isn’t exactly your definition. Go argue about nothing with someone who cares, I am not into this kink.

If people don’t think there are problems why would people build solutions? Are you offering your boobs or someone else’s boobs?

So we are just arguing over the definition of Democracy? I think we have to agree to disagree here. I don’t think I care enough to have a deep discussion with you about that.

Then we come back to the problem that no one cares. Insults are what gets peoples attention. Look, everyone was being nice about all the fascists in the US and now there is killing. So go us!

No it is very possible, fascists directly and indirectly kill a lot of people. Sure they can also call me fat but I can just say at least I don’t end up killing a bunch of innocent people. See, easy!

Why are you mad at me? All I am saying is what we have right now is worse than what we had last year and I would like that back at the very least. I never said that what we had a year ago would solve all the problems or was the ideal government or the best form of democracy.

Good entirely depends on your perspective.

Yes, by definition. What is your point? We all agree murder is bad so we put people who disagree with that in jail.

Conservatives also use violence to create what they perceive as good outcomes.

Not just Conservatives, everyone does this. Any society with laws will need to use violence to enforce those laws.

Ridiculing differences is a step into the dark side that shouldn’t be made.

Can you be more specific? If I make fun of a fat fascist today, how does this result in me become a fascist or a fascist state arise?

What’s the difference to conservatives if violence becomes a means to an end?

I think you should look into basic political theory. Violence is always a means to an end. If cops show up to send you to jail and you say “no I am not going”, they aren’t just going to stand there until you agree to come with them. They will use violence. It’s how all states enforce their laws.

The difference is using violence to create good outcomes vs bad outcomes. Conservatives will use violence to send brown people El Salvador. The outcome of this is creating a white ethnostate. This is bad for not only the brown people (obviously), but also for the white people as diversity is healthy and increases quality of life. Leftists would use violence to shrink the income inequality witch would improve many peoples lives. All this to say, good things and good and bad things are bad.

If it is ok to ridicule micropenisses, how should people with other disabilities or minorities in general feel safe? Making fun of body issues destroys the left idea of inclusion.

To be 100% clear it’s only ok to ridicule micropenisses if the person you are ridiculing is a fascist. I am not saying you can drop this on anyone.

I don’t like it that innocent people will catch strays because some people will see this as an excuse. I would rather not do harm. But we don’t start waking people up that the USA is turning fascist these people will have a lot more safety concerns than lacking body positivity.

Would you rather they have low self esteem or be sent to El Salvador or worse, executed for being different?

Also, I will happily feel unsafe as a fat person if it means I safe a couple of lives. Given what a fascist US could do I might saves 100s.

Yes, I agree it isn’t respectful. It does not turn people into racists or conservatives though.

You know you can just stop making fun of people after making fun of them for having a micro penis. That is a thing you can do.

It doesn’t justify anything. It’s a means to an end.

Ok then, using your metrics we never had democracy. Using my metrics we had democracy, and I would prefer that to fascism.

But I also like stronger democracy. So if we can make improvements I’m all for it.

If I read this reply as an honest question I would say, unfortunately yes, as long as they’re doing fascist things.

If I read this reply as a gotcha attempt, I would say I am a fat man and I would say yes. Fascism is a disease of the state. People are going to die, and some people will catch strays.

The sooner we wake up to the fact that there are political problems that need to be solved the sooner we can stop doing this horrible stuff.

This took me a long time to figure out so I’m very sympathetic.

One way political people bring attention to bad politics is to body shame. The intent is to bring energy to the shaming. This is to wake up all the non-political people by being funny or hateful. These emotions travel farther than just facts.

The side effect is that some people walk away thinking the body shaming is the point. It isn’t.

It sucks that the facts aren’t enough, but that is the world we live in.

So it’s not that micropenises are bad. It’s that Trump is bad and it is the common thought that micro penises are bad or funny or inadequate. Just because it’s common thought though doesn’t mean it’s true.

Depends on you threshold but we have had it for a while. No need to spend money on elections or news media if we didn’t have a democracy.