Honestly given the rise of generative audio being able to mimic someone at phone call quality from a small training set it’s not unreasonable. That’s the real clone or doppelganger to be fearful of.
I meant to bring this up at Christmas last year when we were all together but I’m going to for sure this year.
This might actually be a decent idea, especially with scammers using AI-assisted voice changes.
Yep, this very common in Japan, especially for elder people and it is recommended to have said word or phrase.
German has a word for it: Enkeltrick
well thats silly now we can all impersonate any German
Nah, he is just saying something confusing. “Enkeltrick” is not referring to a code word, it’s the word we use for the scam scheme where scammers pretend to be the grandkid of elderly to get them to send money
I wouldn’t be surprised if German had a word meaning German has a word for everything.
Yes normal
Not the worst idea when the most likely scenario is a phone call from a scammer using an AI voice clone to demand random money.
exactly this. Mother in law got one of those calls not long ago.
Having a codeword sounds stupid now, but might be normal in a few years.
Mine is Gizmo
Thanks, now I can scam your family
You’re to slow. I’ve already romace scammed my way to being their new grand-papi and cleaned grandma out.
“honey, you know we’re broke tell the kidnappers I love you and dinner will be ready at 645”
Boy, I love the future
With AI deep fakes being used for ransoms, this actually isn’t a terrible idea.
Yeah. I’ve already discussed doing this with family.
Sounds like something a clone would do immediately after assuming the life of the original, in case the original ever escapes and tries to reclaim their life.
What makes you so certain that it was your husband and not a clone or doppelganger trying to confuse and distract you while setting fire in the house?
Having code words is good opsec. We had one as kids decades ago in case a stranger tried to pick us up.
“Your mommy is in the hospital and she sent me to get you.”
“What’s the code word?” No code word, find someone in a uniform or with a name tag.
This is kinda like the whole “What would you do to prepare for a zombie apocalypse?” The answer is the same for a lot of emergency and disaster prep but more fun.
With AI that can replicate your voice or any voice this is a good plan .
It’s more prevalent in Latin America right now, but with the ease of being able to clone the voice of someone that posts on social media, virtual kidnappings are a thing that aren’t going away. So the codeword is actually very relevant today.
Mine was mentioning a problem with a car they don’t have as code for help.
This wouldn’t work with me.
“Would you help me change the alternator on my Moskvitch?” “Why the fuck and when the fuck did you buy a Moskvitch?”
I just installed GnuPG on my family members and have them cryptographically verify their identity
Reading my public key out loud before every sentence can be tiring, but it’s the only way we can be safe!
Oh hey Alice, how you doing? Anyways,
30 82 01 0a 02 82 01 …Should only be necessary if one of your family members looks away. Should save you a little bandwidth.
This is the first thing I’d ask my family to do if I was already the doppelganger.
Lmao that’s what I was thinking too. The real husband is far less likely to think of needing a codeword than the imposter is, and the imposter’s best bet is to draw the family attention to the possibility first and alienate the original.
I have heard this in context of a kidnapping and asking a question only you will know the answer too.
The best solution to tell an imposter is by talking about a shared memory but changing some obvious details. You proof you are you by knowing the specific memory, they proof who they are by calling out the wrong detail.
Of course in context of a full clone, they would also have your memory and no amount of planning will help.
I always worried about something like that because I have a terrible memory
Doesn’t have to be a story - favorite food with the wrong seasoning/condiment could work too; favorite character on show (mismatch as you like), etc.
How did you know that this is my secret decency check to judge people?
If people would not get along with an imaginary clone of themselves its a sign to stay clear of them.
If it’s a full clone, then they either have the existing moral framework to not betray you or their betrayal was inevitable regardless of the cloning.
When I was in a very young grade at school, an announcement came over the speakers. It was something intentionally meaningless, like “just a reminder that so and so will be presenting tomorrow”.
My teacher jumped up and closed the window shutters. We were all counted and escorted to the gymnasium. Turns out that message was a coded code silver kind of thing and there were people with guns on the school grounds.
Nobody was harmed; not students nor teachers, nor gun-people, nor police. There were contingency plans in place and practiced and they worked marvellously. I look back and find it kind of neat.
Got it, so split into 2 groups, one conspicuously walk around with a hand gun, the others hide in the gym with the assault rifles.
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legitimately a good idea to have a code word with your kids so theu can tell an adult you have sent for them from a kidnapper.
Okay I’m high and that took a second to parse. Like I knew what you meant but grammatically tracing everything back, part of my brain kept saying “yes, children, these are the adults we prearranged to pick you up while we are at the kidnappers please go with them until we are back from dinner” which, like depending on your job could have a whole other kind of meaning
easy, just say “what if the doppelganger sets fire to the house? we need a plan for that”
Is a fire something you need to plan for? “Get out” feels good enough for me.
Securing persons (young children, elderly, or disabled people), pets, or critical objects (health related stuff, maybe a box with important papers or family belongings) can require a bit of planning. Also good to know where to head to once you’re out, especially for kids if fire happens when they’re alone. But yeah, for most people, “get out” is probably enough.
As @[email protected] said you want plans for how to get anyone vulnerable out, how to secure valuables (if, and only if, safely possible), where to meet (really important for kids, especially as you may have been incapacitated). But you should also know things like; how to shut off the gas (again, only if safe), where the door keys are so you can get out if they’re locked at night, which upstairs windows you can jump from if the stairs are blocked and which rooms have solid walls and door to act as a refuge if all else fails. CPR training could save a family member’s life, as could basic fire escape or rescue training.
Basically, imagine you wake up at 3am to the sound of your smoke alarms, the fire is already well developed and smoke is starting to fill the house. What do you need to know, or have planned, to get you and your family to safety in the next few minutes?
Yes you do need to be prepared. If you’re inside a fire and even if it just started a few minutes ago, the ashes and black smoke will get so thick you will barely see an arm’s length in front of you, and there will be complete opacity 2 meters in front of you. Also people can panick and make bad decisions, I’ve seen two people freaking out over a fire extinguisher “not working” because they were too scared to think straight. I’ve had to show them to slow down, read the instructions on the sticker, follow the steps and then empty the can. Fire drills and preparation will probably save your life if you’re ever in a fire, and it may even help you save other people’s lives.
My neighbors house caught fire and she got out but insisted on spraying the house down with the hose, she got trapped in a corner of her backyard and couldn’t get past the fire.
we were trying to get a ladder to get her over the fence but luckily the firefighters arrived and are much better at rescue and quickly tore down some fence panels to get her through
Yes.
Sounds like something a cyborg doppelganger would try to do
But do you have a code word you never told anyone that you can use to recognise yourself from the future or from a parallel universe?
Yes, it’s spaghetti
Yes, it’s spaghetti
Haha nice try C-238
I’ve had one since I was like 13, and I make sure to actively remember it periodically so it’ll work.
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I decided on a code word in May of 2009, So if I go back to anytime after that, I know I can trust me.
Yes its Italian pasta!
How is an alternative universe version of me going to know my codeword? I assume they have lead a very different life.
It depends on where your universes split
