California national guards troops and marines deployed to Los Angeles to help restore order after days of protest against the Trump administration have told friends and family members they are deeply unhappy about the assignment and worry their only meaningful role will be as pawns in a political battle they do not want to join.
Three different advocacy organisations representing military families said they had heard from dozens of affected service members who expressed discomfort about being drawn into a domestic policing operation outside their normal field of operations. The groups said they have heard no countervailing opinions.
“The sentiment across the board right now is that deploying military force against our own communities isn’t the kind of national security we signed up for,” said Sarah Streyder of the Secure Families Initiative, which represents the interests of military spouses, children and veterans.
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“cops if your quick” always makes me crack up
LMAO mood++
“The sentiment across the board right now is that deploying military force against our own communities isn’t the kind of national security we signed up for,”
“I signed up to murder foreign communities, not my own!”
Eat dirt, scum
yet more proof troops are cops
Team America, Wold Police
they felt like pawns in a political game and assignment was not necessary
That’s true of all U.S military assignments.
yeah but this time they don’t get to shoot foreigners
usually the DM has a big lore and world building, this one is like he just called it in
I guess some troops saw the Timothaay chalamaay Bob Dylan movie.
signed up to shoot foreigners and get a camaro, upset they’re getting no camaro and bottles of piss thrown at them instead
Antifa supersoldier jarate
Aww, did somebawdy find out they’re Storm Twoopers?
Now you feel like a pawn? What the fuck did these dumbasses think a soldier was? For that matter what did they think that the actual pawn in actual chess was meant to represent?
Make Fragging Great Again
I’m imagining some old Vietnam veteran going all “Back in my day, when we weren’t happy with where we were deployed, we FRAGGED our officers! These whiny kids want everything handed to them.”
The one good troop
“The sentiment across the board right now is that deploying military force against our own communities isn’t the kind of national security we signed up for,”
lmao get fucked
i mean legit if the military is just exclusively deployed to do stuff like this in the U.S. (doubtful with the Iran war possibly coming) we might actually see a lib Carnation Revolution at some point
no foreigners to murder, just being stuck in terrible conditions while a whole city of treats is just out of reach. it’s like being home but not. and I know there are plenty of psychos who want nothing more then to die mothafucker die a .50 cal into a packed crowd of liberal boomers but we aren’t quite the Imperium of Man yet and i can’t imagine murdering their own neighbors (only to return to a cold floor) will go over well with the majority
either way, fragging is a thing. and more regretful, anti-imperialist former troops (that renounce their former career) with training and skills can’t hurt a nascent leftist movement
doubtful with the Iran war possibly coming
Honestly this war could potentially be used as a scotch tape measure to hold an angry country together, cause nothing sees greater bipartisan support than wars (against the global South; a war against a Western country would be treated as a grave crime because libs see Westerners as human beings)
yeah i thought about this exact thing after I posted that. I can already see the gears turning on reddit and shit as the libs prepare themselves to “liberate the oppressed women” (i guess from their lives)
they’re weir 1 or 2 pre-Luigis in Q4 2024 by former troops, kind of surprised there hasn’t been more since.
and let’s also not forget
also don’t forget Aaron Bushnell, a different kind of Luigi but important nonetheless
still following orders though
Oh, well, too bad they are enslaved and can’t voluntarily leave this job and work at a school or grocery store to avoid having to oppress their own countrymen against their will. Such a shame, but at least they still get their fat checks and social benefits!
i doubt the checks are even fat
Fatter than people working the cash register at a grocery store though.
Not as fat as you’d think. Walmart wages scale about the same as pay for E-3s and E-4s, depending on the store and position. E-4 wages are like $18 an hour.
sad, getting walmart shelf stocker wages for far less honorable work
walmart doesn’t have barracks, yet
yeah part of the deal is you’re spending way less on housing and food so the wage goes further, which is how you afford the car financing.
Gotta get dat camero somehow
They can’t, Chevrolet has disrespected the troops: Chevy Camaro Axed after 2024
we used to be a country
These fuckers are even more pathetic than I imagined.
They literally just enlist to SA and murder in exchange for social benefits. They make far less than I expected, and while that makes me happy it also makes me angrier these idiots wreck the world at the command of the wealthy in exchange for basic goods they would get in even better conditions if they just sided with working people. I know they also benefit from living in military housing, etc., but these people are just fucking pathetic.
Far more respect for any working person at a grocery store than these losers.
The only real benefit at that level is that you don’t pay for food or rent in the barracks, so if you are disciplined and not addicted to sports betting, you can save all that money, which is why people blow it on a Camaro when they are 22, but then basically have nothing outside of that.
It’s also why people in the military get married so young and divorced so often, as if you are married you get to have a little house on base with all your rent and food paid for, but once you make rank and can just live in a house, suddenly living with your wife who you always hated doesn’t sound all that appealing any more.
They are not.
Shockingly bigger losers than I thought.
Do any of these folks even know who Smedley Butler is? A military parade in DC is just such a fertile opportunity.
For those here who may not know:
Related, if anyone here ever encounters any military people who might want out, point them here: https://girightshotline.org/
This group can coach and help them so they can find a way to leave without having their life ruined by their superiors.
This group can coach and help them so they can find a way to leave without having their life ruined by their superiors.
what kind of stuff do they do to ruin your life if you try to get out?
They can court martial you, hit you with insubordination beforehand, delay the paperwork, all kinds of fun stuff, because despite being a volunteer army, you sign an enlistment contract and unlike at-will employment that gets pushed everywhere else to combat unions, there can even be financial consequences for trying to leave your contract early.
It’s why I heavily discourage people from joining the military, other than all the usual reasons. At least you can quit McDonalds.
Not to mention the threat of a dishonorable discharge. Any future opportunities are completely fucked. A dishonorable discharge can affect everything from housing, to job applications, to loans. It’s why there’s a lot of homeless veterans. You can get away with a lot of fucked up shit in the military, so you have to do something really fucked up to get a dishonorable discharge, or have to do something like trying to leave early.
So there are different levels of discharge and some of the worse levels, “Other Than Honorable” and “Dishonorable”, will supposedly make it difficult to get hired (assuming employers know about it) and result in (I think) total loss of benefits on top of that. In addition, their superiors could find creative ways to make their life very difficult and they’ll likely face harassment, extreme punishment, and possibly physical/mental abuse. If they’re convicted of something, they could also be locked up in a military prison.
Someone on their side with good knowledge of the military legal system can potentially help protect them from all this which would of course help them to make a decision to refuse orders and/or leave completely.
I think I’ve mentioned it before, but convincing soldiers to find a way out and helping them do so seems like good praxis for multiple reasons and I wish there was more discussion about this.
thats what joining the military IS
being a pawn in the chess game!
A lot of American soldiers, just like a lot of Americans otherwise, have main character syndrome.
There was a reddit post a while back from some troop who had regrets who really summed it up well saying: “When I enlisted I thought I was signing up to be Luke Skywalker. Instead I realized one day I was just another faceless Stormtrooper.”
… feel like a pawn…
Well then… pawns can take out kings. Do something funny.
