• adhdplantdev@lemm.ee
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    5 days ago

    Until someone has a really good technical explanation of how this would be theoretically possible I remain highly skeptical of these types of claims.

    Not that it’s impossible for it to happen but in my own personal research or voting machines and how they work and the starlink connection. The internet is not used to send voting results anywhere. They’re loaded on the machine and have to be unloaded from the machine.

    As far as I’m aware the internet connection is only used to update the options on the machines and can’t be used to comprise these machines.

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      That is the substack/blog post I saw about it earlier, that attempts to thread the needle on how it would be possible/what they theorize is going on.

      On the one hand, it sounds plausible at first blush. And there are some very weird incestuous connections between the tech parties theoretically “involved”.

      But on the other hand: the evidence/ detail in that post still feels light to me. The fact that the writer off-handedly mentions Trump and Musk as decades long Russian operatives immediately makes me recoil based on its adjacency to Russia gate hysteria.

      Beyond that, If this were true, it would be a fairly large conspiracy with lots of moving parts—multiple companies and people working in concert over years towards a singular goal. An act that if outed, could result in treason charges and significant jail time across the board. My general sense is that the more complicated and large a conspiracy is, the less likely it is to be true, since each moving part adds to the risk of exposure, etc.

      So anyway, there are some spooky things in the timeline, and some of Trumps and Musks comments from back then have always seemed weird to me, but I’m erring on the side of this needing a lot more corroboration before I take it seriously.

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        I appreciate the additional information.

        I agree, Right now it feels like this conspiracy is a whole lot of conjecture without a whole lot of substance.

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      I couldn’t read the whole thing cause it was so crazy but the substack in the other comment does have a hypothesis about the logistics. There is more details in the link but basically they think it was done via power bar?

      ES&S systems, including central tabulators and Electionware servers, rely on Tripp Lite UPS devices. ES&S’s Electionware suite runs on Windows OS, which automatically trusts connected UPS hardware.

      If Eaton pushed an update to those UPS units, it could have gained root-level access to the host tabulation environment—without ever modifying certified election software.

      I hope there is a talk about this clever attack at defcon or something.

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        I mean thats assuming default behavior and no hardening on the OS layer.

        Still this is a super interesting attack vector and I would love to hear more about it. Here’s hoping we get a decent explanation at Defcon

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          I managed to hop through the rest of the substack. The author further speculates that Elon Musk can control UPSes from satellite using “lasers”. (Mention of which is a “breadcrumb” that those elites can’t help but leave for us.)

          DTC doesn’t require routers, towers, or a traditional SIM. It connects directly from satellite to any compatible device—including embedded modems in “air-gapped” voting systems, smart UPS units, or unsecured auxiliary hardware.

          From that moment on:

          • Commands could be sent from orbit
          • Patch delivery became invisible to domestic monitors
          • Compromised devices could be triggered remotely

          To support these ostentatious claims, they just have the graphs about how badly Kamala Harris lost. And of course the lack of evidence is actually evidence itself because of a perfect, error-proof “ballot scrubbing” technology; another hidden in plain sight clue. So forensic evidence is impossible. Hence the charts.

          Hope they demo this whole chain of events during their talk (or in court), that would be cool. It would be a lot more convincing than all these loser charts.

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      pepe-silvia starlink satellites! Elon musk! Russia! The enemy is both weak and powerful

      Didn’t you hear Elon put a starlink satellite on the roof of the Whitehouse (after the election)