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    To put into perspective how bad that jobs report is, you need to remember that January through July 2020 included three months of lockdown, shutdowns, and a worldwide pandemic.

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    Highest since he was last in charge.

    I really wish his supporters had a couple of braincells collectively to rub together

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      Yeah but they always believe the reasons that are given.

      It wasn’t our fault, it was the pandemic. It’s not our fault, the numbers are rigged. It wasn’t our fault we inherited the problem. It wasn’t our fault, the Democrats toned down our bill and that caused the problem. It wasn’t our fault, there are too many immigrants.

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        The “our” is the problem. They feel attached to the Republican party and that Democrats are the enemy, the why doesn’t matter in that basic way. So they double down hoping the next guy is crazy enough to fix it, but obviously a Democrat can’t fix it because them being in power means they have lost.

        If candidates were masked and you were only voting based on their past actions we would have very different politicians.

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    The fact that people ever buy into this type of pandering. It’s high school class president level pandering “if you vote for me we’ll have pizza every Friday and Taco Tuesdays are coming back!”

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      Commerical real estate is also imploding.

      https://www.biznews.com/sponsored/us-commercial-real-estate-market-imploding-bank-lending

      https://brownstone.org/articles/the-meltdown-of-commercial-real-estate/

      https://www.unitedstatesrealestateinvestor.com/commercial-collapse-escalates-mall-owners-default-as-retail-tenants-flee-en-masse/

      Economy is over, everyone go home lol.

      Yeah, oops, turns out, again, our entire economy is… whoah, another real estate bubble, who could have guessed?

      Yep, this is the Second Great Depression.

      Good luck and godspeed everyone, hope you know how to cook some basic staple goods.

      Oh right, I forgot about ~70% of US agro workers fleeing ICE and basically all our crops dying on the vine, oh and also now we have to import food through tariffs.

      =D =D =D

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      Except this time they’re expensive, not cheap.

      Also, it makes me wonder if the REITs are starting to run out of buying capacity, which I’m guessing implies even more economic instability than even pessimistic folks realize.

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        I am not certain that its … that REITs are running out of money broadly… not quite yet at least…

        But I am 99% convinced that basically every private homeowner and small time flipper / ‘real estate investor’ who just recently took their homes off market, after them already being on market 120 days +…

        Yeah I’m pretty sure basically all those people are underwater, not necessarily on the property per se, but their total personal financial outlook is now fucked, from 401ks crashing earlier this year, and just generally way too high debt / debt to income ratios, general cost of living increase from tariffs/deportations.

        Hooray HELOCs!

        Don’t worry, date the rate, marry the house, you can always refinance at a better rate later!

        (except when you can’t, why did you believe the used car dealer home salesperson?)

        These people overextended and refuse to entertain a price point where they’d have to end up getting a real job or selling half their shit.

        So, a bunch of them in a few noticably fucked markets actually withdrew their for sale listings… in what I can only describe as a hilariously ineffective, delulu gambit to lower overall supply and thus try to stymie that bit of the fundamentals behind the collapse.

        What they evidently do not realizs is thag the actual REITs and other mass property owners… they’re just gonna keep dropping prices, they can afford to do that, they have bigger pockets…

        So, when Joe Blow former AirBNB landlord tries to list again in 3ish months, oh no! Comps are down by another 5-10%! Who could have predicted this!?

        Its wild to see basically the housing market now just broadly act in the dumb money vs smart money vs institutional money dynamics that the stock market does, at such a scale.

        So many of these petite bougeois are gonna be having total mental breakdowns that nope, they didn’t make the cut, fission mailed, generational wealth not achieved, put the fries in the bag.

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    I’ve been waiting for a moment to spring this one:

    I genuienly wish I knew who the artist was to credit, lol.

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    With few exceptions, everyone I know has mentioned that their workplace has either downsized, is in the process of downsizing, and/or is on a hiring freeze at a minimum. Where do the people who have become unemployed directly and indirectly because of the federal government’s decisions find a job? I know they think suddenly everybody’s going to be rushing out to those seasonal agricultural jobs that barely pay above minimum wage (if that) and have no benefits, but do they really think data scientists and education coordinators are going to be well suited to picking okra and processing tomatoes even if they were willing to do it?

    Simultaneously, the prices of necessities seem to be on a steep incline again.

    The government is coming at working people directly and from both ends.

    One problem is, at least conceptually, that last time this shit happened, we could blame it on the ramifications of covid and at least the better informed among us knew it was a worldwide phenomenon. This time around, for the USA at least, it’s self inflicted. Much of this, if not virtually all of it, was avoidable.

    The other problem, in my opinion, is that people are literally living in completely different and seemingly mutually exclusive realities. To my conservative acquaintances, the cost of eggs are down which is fantastic and even though last year the price on that was all Biden’s fault, now that the prices on so many other things have gone up due to Trump’s tariffs or threat thereof, suddenly the story is that the president doesn’t control the prices of groceries. How do you even find common ground with those types of “facts”? You can’t.

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    A lot of layoffs are not yet in the “monthly” job numbers, because somehow severance means you are still counted as employed.