“vibe coded/coding” means using something like Chat-gpt to output code, if anyone is wondering.
To those of you feeling called out: Vibe coding is not about letting GPT find your missing semicolon or create that weird for-loop for you, but crafting the whole source code from scratch for a person who can’t program at all.
I’ve used it to craft a quick PowerShell or bash oneliner, or to get familiar with a function in some python package I’ve never used. But an entire program?
Well, executives like to oversell the ability of genAI, so people think it can fully replace human coders right now. In actuality, it’s just a more resource wasting Google. I usually try to look for code with public domain license instead to copy and modify (I try to credit the original authors nevertheless), and rarely peek into less permissive codes (had to do it for some OS API stuff, because people forgot how do do what SDL does without using SDL, my worst offense was to check the keyboard scancode lookup table in multiple Linux versions).
Do people really do that?! I’ve just used it as a starting point for something totally unfamiliar, reworked it to suit, made sure I understood everything it spit out. I cannot imagine ChatGPT spitting out working code.
They do. The result is usually as expected. Either full of security holes or the recipe site is advertising cyanide ice cream.
we just picked up a new intern this month. they did ok in the interview but it was mostly that their dad works with us that they got a job this summer. this week while we were waiting for a meeting to start one of the other devs asked him about the tools he typicaly uses.
he started talking about these vibe coding IDEs and i had to look them up. WTF! but now it is all making sense. who goes to a 4 year uni getting a cs degree and can’t navigate a terminal? this is going to be a long summer.
How are people like this getting jobs and I can’t find one?
Because his dad works for the company
Confidence. Connections. Opportunities.
Act like you know what you’re doing (you are likely more capable than you give yourself credit for). Be open to networking opportunities.
Give yourself the opportunities to get a job by applying to places you might be at least a 50% match for, using a well-crafted resume. A lot of these job listings are written on a game of telephone. A lot gets mistranslated between the dev team, management, and HR. Let the interviewer and your own judgement decide if you’re a good fit or not after the interview, not that job listing.
These folks are getting to the hiring managers just by sheer number of applications (or knowing the right people), knowing how to get past the filters, and presenting themselves as a great candidate. Do the same, and you might have better luck.
Confidence. Connections. Opportunities.
But mainly whiteness.
the intern in my story is not white.
Have a dad that can get you a job
I was at a student project that just transitions to a being a normal job once you get your BSc, and there was one guy on our team who nobody knows how he got there, since there were objectively better students (in terms of grades and knowledge) who got rejected. He was beyond useless and always got other people to do his work for him.
Anyways, the company I worked at offered internships for students, and the main criteria for getting accepted was your average grade. I was present to witness that guy going on a call with someone who determines who gets the internship to vouch for his friend. His friend had an average grade far under 8 (which is honestly embarassing at our uni), but this dude said how his friend is very motivated, wants to work, the grade problem is only there because those are some subjects he doesn’t care about, and he personally stands behind him that he’ll be a grear intern.
Well it worked, that guy got the internship and other students who actually knew something got rejected because they didn’t have connections inside the company. I imagine that’s a story that gets repeated often. Higher mamagers don’t really know who’s doing what, so people who know how to confidently bullshit can talk themselves into and out of many situations and they often form connections with similar people.
My buddy got one of those. Immediate stopped doing group work and set about rebranding himself as an AI Automation Engineer. He’s missing SO MUCH of the basics but sure talks a good schtick and is climbing the ladder so fast. After meetings we kinda wonder whether he really believes all that stuff. It’s very worrying.
the path up in many companies is an upside down pyramid of incompetance. you use to fail your way up but now it is about how much koolaid you drink.
do any of these apps really exist or is it just some a shit gui in a wrapper? i ve seen so many memes about it now but never really saw any of the apps.
They do exist. You are made to use stuff like cursor at many workplaces now for “productivity”
The VP of software engineering at my current company just announced that the goal is to have 30% or more of all code being written by AI by next year…
Either he or the company will be gone in 2 years.
well ok. but i mean when those vibe coders post “i wrote an entire app in x hours” i always imagine it is an app that anyone can actually take a look at…like public in appstore or some webapp. too high expectations?/
yup, created one myself over the weekend, check it out here: http://127.0.0.1:8080/app.js
Man, I would much rather be dead than live in this shitty timeline.
That can be arranged.
For a fee of course…
I am so broke. :(
I’m wondering why the man spent anytime in the ER for a bunch of scratches. Looks like he fell off his bike.
I dunno, the hand… something tells me this image is mirrored, or he could be lefty…
My guess is he punched a hole in the drywall and his mom pushed him down the stoop to kick him out, hence the other light abrasions on knee and wrist.
My mechanic vibe fixes my car, so whatevs
Correct, just replace parts until it works… or not, does not matter, customer pays either way.
