I’ll kill half a dozen cops or MP’s or die trying if they try to forcibly deploy me before I do a single goddamn thing for Trumps Military.
If somehow I’m deployed against my wishes my first action is to make a white flag out of my underwear, surrender to whoever they deploy me against, and share as much intelligence as I have (probably 0 but who cares).
This isn’t some power fantasy by the way, I don’t want to hurt anyone.
As a european, chances are if my country is being invaded, it’s either by Russia og USA. If I’m gonna have to defend my country it will absolutely not be through the military. Conventional warfare against a greater foe is just a really good way of getting killed.
Either civil disobediance or terrorist attacks like the IRA is more my style.
Terorist attacks implies that your town is already occupied, and by then it’s too late. It’s very easy for an occupying army to shoot civilians, and they do it regularly. IRA style worked because British army did not depopulate towns.
You won’t do much without weapons, and the military is one of few ways to get them.
Also not handguns or rifles. If you ever need to use a rifle, the enemy is already right at your face (or you’re shooting civilians). And you’re not buying yourself a grenade launcher or an artillery piece with your civilian salary and civilian hunting license.
The best way to contribute as a civilian is to assemble some drones, ideally with 10 kg payload, enough to rig it with an anti-tank mine. In case of invasion, the army can provide mines really quickly.
This is why I don’t think the strength of the US military holds up to its historical reputation today.
No one wants to fight stupid wars for someone else, but they are willing to defend themselves, their loved ones and their way of life. And we have the internet that allows us to know that yes, other people also live a similar life to me and have similar thoughts. Sure, they have all the prepper and tacticool guys dying at the chance to get on a chopper. But real life warfare, especially guerrilla, is not like in the (American) movies
The issue is that many of us are also concerned about the others who would or at least could be drafted. Our children. The younger adults we’ve taken under our wings and built friendships with. It’s hardly any comfort knowing that I would never be drafted. Granted, I don’t think there’s a good chance of anybody getting drafted in my lifetime, but stupider shit has already happened, so there you go.
The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty. That poverty is on purpose to funnel recruits into the military. Unlikely to ever be a draft again, they’ll just ramp up the poverty.
Also why leadershit is pissing their pants over declining fertility rates.
The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty.
Also the leading motivation for ICE recruits. That and the ability to be jerks.
The leading motivation for ICE recruits is power fantasies of hurting people and feeling important.
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Welcome to operation meat shield where we’ll cash in those 30 years of contributions and pensions to keep the markets going I up and the boomers from having to face consequences.
Sign. Me. Up.
Remember that when a dictator runs out of qualified people, they’ll draft anyone who has a pulse to keep things going.
We need socialisam
you’ll get barbarism
“Barbarism refers to a state or condition characterized by a lack of culture, civilization, or refinement, often associated with acts or ideas that are considered offensive or uncivilized”
NGL bud, that sounds like a lot of places in the world currently.
exactly
socialism or barbarism
humanity rejected socialism and now you will get barbarism
Please explain
Gestures wildly.
What?
Wishful thinking, in the Serbian- Croatian war they were drafting 60 year olds. Russia has dropped any medical exemptions.
Nahh, they’d have to be drafting 60 y/os by the time they got to me. Honestly ill just be impressed i held out that long.
Unless you foresee them instituting the draft tomorrow.
Russia’s strategy has been to throw meat at the front until Ukraine runs out of bullets resulting in over a MILLION killed or wounded. The US had around 60,000 total casualties across the entire GWOT, with the vast majority just being wounded.
The point being I don’t think the military will need a draft anytime in the future. That doesn’t rule out the possibility trump does it for the hell of it, but at the same time I’m pretty sure the Republicans would impeach him themselves if he did that.
The point being I don’t think the military will need a draft anytime in the future.
US military has a record number of recruits because it’s the only way to get an education and healthcare.
eh, in the Netherlands you can get drafted until 45. at least there’s no mandatory duty nowadays… yet.
I have a bone spur in my foot, can I also dodge a draft?
How wealthy is your bone spur?
Not very wealthy.
Are you also into children? Then sure!
When Nazi Germany decided to declare war on the whole world, their leaders remarked that some of the fighters they were forced to use were “old meat” and “green vegetables”. (So-called “casserole” units.)
It’s one thing to think you’re invincible and quite another to commit acts of state-sponsored terrorism and war in the belief that you’re untouchable, but if there’s anyone in the world who seems willing to find the breaking point, it appears to be Donald.
They are more commonly known as “cannon fodder”
Donald’s barely even functional these days. This is his debt-holders’ war.
Millennials spent our time terrified of a draft 10-20 years ago. Gen Z, welcome to the “anti war for my own self preservation” club, we [millennials] really did try to keep you out of it
How hard did we really try though?
Could you at least replace my windows if you’re going to hit that close to home?
Still fit for duty, operation meat shield go!
NGL, I had to legitimately tell myself this the other day. I spent most of my formative years as a young adult worried that the neverending war in the middle east would escalate and I would be drafted. I was not alone in this fear either, most of my peers had plans to flee the country if Bush called for conscription.
It never did end up happening, probably because the war was deeply unpopular after it was clear that the invasion was just a pretense for regime change and not at all related to 9/11 or WMDs.
I think the mental trauma from that never healed, and now I’m pushing 40 and still thinking every new “war” we start will have the MPs knocking at my door to serve me my mustering papers.
Gun nut wannabe operators are like our primary domestic product. Decades of defense propaganda in TV, movies, and games has guaranteed no shortage of willing idiots with expendable bodies who have already foregone their humanity for the fantasy of headshotting the men and raping the women. America will rip apart at the seams before it ever sees another general draft.
War is how the rich kill off the poor.
General strike is the only solution.
