• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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        “Oh, in social structures when someone tries to make me do something, I just refuse. I can afford to tank whatever retribution they might have against me, because I am always in a secure state of life where my needs will be met”

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          “Refusing to do dumb shit reeks of privilege because there are people who can’t afford to refuse to do dumb shit” is a take right along with “curing cancer is unfair to people who already died of cancer”.

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            My guy, there are people who have jobs they HAVE TO keep, relations that they HAVE TO maintain, otherwise they find themselves out on the fucking street. That’s what I’m talking about. Not everyone has their life in a state where they can just flat out say “FUCK YOU” to whoever they want. Being able to say “FUCK YOU” to whoever they want is a privilage.

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              It’s telling that you just assume none of us have ever willingly ended up on the street over our aherence to personal conviction. That we’ve only ever been the only person we can be in select positions of privledge and never suffered severe consequences for it.

              It’s the assumption made by the kind of cowards who then chastise me as being irresponsible for having the courage to repeatedly face down those exact consequences.

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                “YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND!! I NEEDED THE MONEY!! THAT’S WHY I HAD TO WORK AS A GUARD AT THE CONCENTRATION CAMP!! MY FAMILY WOULD HAVE STARVED LIKE THE PRISONERS!! NOOOO!!”

                same shit, different degree. Having morals and principles means facing consequences and sometimes people don’t want to face those consequences, so they do away with their morals. They had to do it, don’t you see?

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                  I had to make something stupid

                  VS

                  I violated the Geneva convention

                  Wow, it’s the same picture

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            … the privilage is not getting to ask why, it’s “fuck you and the consequences” and refusal.

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              Someone tells me to do something or they will punish me without explanation does seem rather privileged. If an explanation can’t be produced then who’s privilege trumps who’s?

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                My guy, there are people who have jobs they HAVE TO keep, relations that they HAVE TO maintain, otherwise they find themselves out on the fucking street. That’s what I’m talking about. Not everyone has their life in a state where they can just flat out say “FUCK YOU” to whoever they want. Being able to say “FUCK YOU” to whoever they want is a privilage.

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                  First off little lady, you lost the plot. Second, you are arguing in favor of never questioning an authority. I was raised punk rock. We question. If the answer sucks thats on you not me. Fuck you is an appropriate answer to anyone who can’t explain why they are hurting you.

                  I am not miss reading social cues, I don’t have an issue with authority, I am fully away how the world works. When I ask why are my fellow citizens getting snagged off the street and not even allowed to show paperwork? Should we go ahead and throw due process out cause someone might think I’m privileged?

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          “Oh, in social structures when someone tries to make me do something, I just refuse. I can’t keep a job for more than a month. I get by for now by (fill in the blank) but I’m never more than one step away from becoming actually homeless and the background stress from that makes everyone around me think I’m bipolar. Wish I weren’t like this.”

          (fill in the blank) isn’t necessarily a euphemism: i’ve seen more than a couple different answers to that. and of course “one step away from homelessness” does become zero, but also zero becomes one. idk what to say if you can’t believe that there are people who have this symptom so bad that they “flunk out” in some way, except to encourage you to venture out of your social circles to the degree you’re comfortable with it.