I kinda miss a few opinions on the topic of “screw taste” here. 🥲
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Phillips strips because it was designed to. Literally. And I fucking hate it.
Slotted is a bitch unless you have the motor skills of a neurosurgeon.
All tamper screws are offensive to me on a religious/spiritual level.
It wasn’t designed to strip when overtorqued. It’s a myth with no evidence. The original patent says nothing about it (I’ve read the whole patent), and later patents list it as post-hoc justification for a design fault.
Really? We were actually taught this in college but come to think of it I never did read the fucking patent.
Look, what’s important is we all seamlessly transition to Robertson screws….
(Honestly I’m convinced it’s just spite for Canada that we haven’t already)
Add it to the list of reasons to hate Henry Ford. When he needed a new screw standard to replace slotted screws in his factories, he went to Robertson first, but he wasn’t willing to sell production rights to Ford. His second choice, Phillips, took the offer. Phillips and similar cruciform screw heads (Pozidriv and JIS, both of which are superior to Phillips) proliferated globally because of this, and it would take a massive shift in the industry today to fully transition to Robertson or Torx.
you take that back about the square drive and pin that shit on the phillips head
context: the square drive was designed as a universal open standard for affixing things to other things. the phillips head was designed as a cheap alternative to torque wrenches
Designed as? No, it was a happy accident. The original patent mentioned nothing about it, and then when they realized they could make that claim the patent was updated.
Fuck phillip head everything.
Square bit as the go-to general purpose bit is the correct opinion. Every time I have to pull my square bit off to put a Philips on I am just disappointed.
It’s not square, it’s ROBERTSON!!! A gift from Canadians to the world, and everyone else decides that, no. Easily strippable screw heads are better…
Phillips and slotted should be illegal. Torx is far superior in every way.
No mention of Oval drive? As much as I normally hate security fasteners, I love those for being hilarious. At first glance it appears roughly circular, you’d be like “well this is a nail, or a rivet or something”. But no, actually you can unscrew it!
I have never seen this. I love it! It’s so simple! Why are these not everywhere?!
Right?! And yet AFAIK there is exactly one (now defunct) company who ever used them. I guess it’s time to be the change we want to see in the world 😈
Phillips exists to auto center and prevent over tightening. This auto centers but doesn’t prevent overtighteninf so you can theoretically torque the head right off. Otherwise it’s great.
and prevent over tightening
That’s a funny way of saying “it’s designed to strip out and become unusable as easily as possible”, but to each their own.
Oh it absolutly does that, which is why I hate it, but it was intended to so exactly that for a different reason.
Yeah, but unfortunately it has to protrude from the surface because the bit grabs the outside, which means you can also grab it with pliers. Not the best feature for a “security” fastener.
Omg you’re right!! I didn’t think about that at all… It’d be difficult but certainly doable.
You could reverse it so the socket is on the screw instead, but then it might be slightly more obvious that it is a screw. Also nobody makes those, to my knowledge.
You didn’t add the new BMW screw
There is absolutely nothing anti-tamper about this screw either. Seriously. It’s just an annoying inconvenience and will be replaced with a standard screw with the same thread by the first mechanics to see it.
I suspect that’s the real reason BMW is pulling this. They want to pull a warrantee void if seal is broken end run around magnussum-moss and will need to be slapped around again.
Yup. Has to be some bullshit to charge more for service, and prevent self maintenance.
Screw BMW.
Bowel Movement Double-Screw
Screw BMW.
Robertson and hex are fine. In the far reaches of the world those can be quite common.
Half of those screws are Robertson if you’re in a pinch.
Kinda surprised this wasn’t a gender comic. I half expected the corpo propaganda label to be mental illness lol
And torx is the tastiest screw, fight me
I won’t fight you brother, I will join you, torx is the best screw, doesn’t strip, Philips is literally built to slip under pressure
I love torx, but posidrive, triangle, and even spanner all hold a special place.
I prefer torx to Philips. Philips strips too easily
Nah, I love me some Torx (especially T15 or T20), and maybe Pozi, if you need a cross-slit screw head, but plain PH? Miss me with that.
I like Philips with slot because it’s useful for when it strips and it will strip.
Pozi and Torx are my jam. They all taste the same though. Yup, I keep 3 or 4 on the side of the mouth when I’m working on a ladder. Nothing beats nails if you want taste.
Reject screw. Return to nail.
Those tasty screws are the least useful and easiest to strip. I like robertson (square) but it’s still easy to strip if you use the wrong size bit. It is a little silly that there are dozens of types, but that’s what you get with patent laws in a money driven evonomy, a hundred ways to do the same thing.
easiest to strip -> easiest to nibble on
Nah, fuck Phillips, every time I use it, even with the perfect sized bit, it strips, and I put just enough torque to fully screw it in and make sure it’s a little tight, and I put enough pressure so it doesn’t twist itself off, but holy hell it is the only screw type I’ve tried which has stripped. I honestly wish hex or square were used for tech instead of Phillips, would’ve been so damn easy to clean the dust out of my laptops if so.
